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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://sherricornelius.com/2009/05/30/religion-and-the-banning-of-books/comment-page-1/#comment-2350</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sherri,

This is a great post.  I think people are figuring out the difference between spirituality and religion, realizing that you don&#039;t have to throw the baby out with the bathwater.  And of course the most certain way to have anyone all over something is to make it &quot;taboo&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sherri,</p>
<p>This is a great post.  I think people are figuring out the difference between spirituality and religion, realizing that you don’t have to throw the baby out with the bathwater.  And of course the most certain way to have anyone all over something is to make it “taboo”.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherri</title>
		<link>http://sherricornelius.com/2009/05/30/religion-and-the-banning-of-books/comment-page-1/#comment-2349</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind. :) I&#039;m one of those who doesn&#039;t like to argue because I&#039;m not very good at it. Most people argue to assert their rightness, but I feel more comfortable with the &quot;throw everything at the wall and see what sticks&quot; method. A good discussion, to me, is when everyone is working toward the truth together, sharing ideas and coming to a consensus. Not the book banners way, apparently! I don&#039;t know how to fight that mentality.

I know they are banning books to protect their children from harmful influence, but I sure do think they&#039;re protecting them from the wrong things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t mind. :) I’m one of those who doesn’t like to argue because I’m not very good at it. Most people argue to assert their rightness, but I feel more comfortable with the “throw everything at the wall and see what sticks” method. A good discussion, to me, is when everyone is working toward the truth together, sharing ideas and coming to a consensus. Not the book banners way, apparently! I don’t know how to fight that mentality.</p>
<p>I know they are banning books to protect their children from harmful influence, but I sure do think they’re protecting them from the wrong things.</p>
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		<title>By: M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 21:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back when I was teaching English 101, I always made sure to fit in a mini-lesson on logical fallacies to help students construct better arguments.  The one I spent the most time on was the straw man fallacy, mainly because it came up over and over again in students&#039; papers.  As I explained to them, if your argument is a solid one, then it should be able to take the full brunt of the opposing argument and come out victorious; if you have to hamstring or misrepresent that other argument to make yours look better, then your argument needs more work.  And to tie this in to your post, if you have to suppress literature that runs contrary to your beliefs, then perhaps you need to do some serious thinking about your beliefs.

I&#039;ve always felt that any belief worth having is one that will stand up to thoughtful, considered scrutiny.  Unfortunately, a great many people look upon the reasons that led them to believe or disbelieve something as being reasons that will convince others in exactly the same way.  I can&#039;t even begin to count the number of times I&#039;ve been in an argument with someone who kept repeating the same thing over and over again, as if I only disagreed with them because I didn&#039;t understand their reasons.  People get all kinds of angry and uncomfortable when there&#039;s a difference of opinion; personally, I think life would be terribly boring if everyone agreed with me on everything.

Then again, there&#039;s also people who simply refuse to read anything that runs counter to their beliefs, and they don&#039;t want anyone else to read those things, either.  I&#039;m sorry, but if your beliefs are such delicate, fragile snowflakes that reading anything whatsoever to the contrary is a dire threat to their existence, then perhaps you aren&#039;t as invested in those beliefs as you want to convince yourself you are.

For example, I&#039;m an atheist, but I&#039;ve also spent a lot of time reading books on various religions along with their holy books.  The knowledge I gained about those religions caused me to scrutinize my own beliefs, and they came out the stronger for it.  I&#039;ve also known several people who have read many of the same texts and ended up feeling stronger in their Christian/Jewish/etc. beliefs or even switched their religious affiliation entirely to something that felt more correct to them.  I love how the exact same knowledge can lead people down such entirely different paths, and I wouldn&#039;t for the world want to ban a single word of it.

Oof, this turned out far longer than I thought it would.  My apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back when I was teaching English 101, I always made sure to fit in a mini-lesson on logical fallacies to help students construct better arguments.  The one I spent the most time on was the straw man fallacy, mainly because it came up over and over again in students’ papers.  As I explained to them, if your argument is a solid one, then it should be able to take the full brunt of the opposing argument and come out victorious; if you have to hamstring or misrepresent that other argument to make yours look better, then your argument needs more work.  And to tie this in to your post, if you have to suppress literature that runs contrary to your beliefs, then perhaps you need to do some serious thinking about your beliefs.</p>
<p>I’ve always felt that any belief worth having is one that will stand up to thoughtful, considered scrutiny.  Unfortunately, a great many people look upon the reasons that led them to believe or disbelieve something as being reasons that will convince others in exactly the same way.  I can’t even begin to count the number of times I’ve been in an argument with someone who kept repeating the same thing over and over again, as if I only disagreed with them because I didn’t understand their reasons.  People get all kinds of angry and uncomfortable when there’s a difference of opinion; personally, I think life would be terribly boring if everyone agreed with me on everything.</p>
<p>Then again, there’s also people who simply refuse to read anything that runs counter to their beliefs, and they don’t want anyone else to read those things, either.  I’m sorry, but if your beliefs are such delicate, fragile snowflakes that reading anything whatsoever to the contrary is a dire threat to their existence, then perhaps you aren’t as invested in those beliefs as you want to convince yourself you are.</p>
<p>For example, I’m an atheist, but I’ve also spent a lot of time reading books on various religions along with their holy books.  The knowledge I gained about those religions caused me to scrutinize my own beliefs, and they came out the stronger for it.  I’ve also known several people who have read many of the same texts and ended up feeling stronger in their Christian/Jewish/etc. beliefs or even switched their religious affiliation entirely to something that felt more correct to them.  I love how the exact same knowledge can lead people down such entirely different paths, and I wouldn’t for the world want to ban a single word of it.</p>
<p>Oof, this turned out far longer than I thought it would.  My apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 15:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WIGSF, you&#039;re silly.

Marta, I agree completely. Although I must admit to having to fight my controlling and fearful nature in my children&#039;s upbringing, which is ironic admitting that in a post about others&#039; controlling and fearful natures. With a different upbringing, I could be one of the book banners. hehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WIGSF, you’re silly.</p>
<p>Marta, I agree completely. Although I must admit to having to fight my controlling and fearful nature in my children’s upbringing, which is ironic admitting that in a post about others’ controlling and fearful natures. With a different upbringing, I could be one of the book banners. hehe</p>
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		<title>By: mapelba</title>
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		<dc:creator>mapelba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 22:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not afraid of what my son might read.  He can think.  And I&#039;m not afraid that he will think differently than I do.  He&#039;s not me.

May he be able to read everything he wants to.  May he be able to know what is out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not afraid of what my son might read.  He can think.  And I’m not afraid that he will think differently than I do.  He’s not me.</p>
<p>May he be able to read everything he wants to.  May he be able to know what is out there.</p>
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		<title>By: whatigotsofar</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatigotsofar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will people learn? Oh right, they can&#039;t, books (a major source of learning) are being banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will people learn? Oh right, they can’t, books (a major source of learning) are being banned.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 17:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way, Wyrddie. Each person&#039;s concept of God is likely unique, because each experience of God is unique. No need to defend it, and I guess that&#039;s why banning books based on religion doesn&#039;t really make sense to us.

Thank you for the original insightful post. You always make me think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way, Wyrddie. Each person’s concept of God is likely unique, because each experience of God is unique. No need to defend it, and I guess that’s why banning books based on religion doesn’t really make sense to us.</p>
<p>Thank you for the original insightful post. You always make me think.</p>
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		<title>By: writtenwyrdd</title>
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		<dc:creator>writtenwyrdd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we humans are very predictable in our need to defend our beliefs no matter how ridiculous.  (And I am not saying religion is ridiculous; just that rediculous ideas get defended quite rabidly despite the illogic!)

Me, I believe in diety, and yet I can accept that I might be wrong.  That my concept is likely nobody else&#039;s concept.  And that&#039;s okay.  I dont&#039; need to defend it, because to do so is (to me) the same as trying to defend my perception of the color red.  It just won&#039;t work, won&#039;t translate fully, and in teh end doesn&#039;t matter.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we humans are very predictable in our need to defend our beliefs no matter how ridiculous.  (And I am not saying religion is ridiculous; just that rediculous ideas get defended quite rabidly despite the illogic!)</p>
<p>Me, I believe in diety, and yet I can accept that I might be wrong.  That my concept is likely nobody else’s concept.  And that’s okay.  I dont’ need to defend it, because to do so is (to me) the same as trying to defend my perception of the color red.  It just won’t work, won’t translate fully, and in teh end doesn’t matter.  ;)</p>
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